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Jerusalem's time tunnels

Seeded on Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:03 PM EDT
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history, find, archaeology, found, discovery, ancient, excavation
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Under the streets of the Old City of Jerusalem and the neighboring village of Silwan is a parallel universe. It is cool year round, and lacks the din of vehicular traffic and merchants. In lower Jerusalem, you cannot hear stones being thrown or smell the tear gas from the Friday clashes between Silwan youths and the police.

On the final day of the Great Revolt against the Romans, in 70 C.E., as the Temple was going up in flames, the last of the Jewish rebels escaped into the city's underground sewer system in a desperate attempt to flee the Roman legionnaires. "Those in the sewers were ferreted out, the ground was torn up, and all who were trapped were killed," reported contemporary historian Flavius Josephus.

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Some of the tunnels were excavated for religious and tourism objectives: Work on the Western Wall tunnels, for example, took place over the past 40 years at the initiative of current and former Western Wall rabbis and the Religious Services Ministry. However, most of the subterranean enterprise is archaeological. The excavations have yielded significant findings and insights, and even critics admit there is much of interest in at least some of the tunnels.

    Reply#1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:04 PM EDT
    Enoch-2699399

    Great work A.K. Very detailed.

    Enoch.

      Reply#2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:49 PM EDT
      WBOB in Indiana

      cool stuff.

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      Reply#3 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:20 PM EDT
      Grisham

      Very neat. Good read. Thanks AK.

        Reply#4 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:20 PM EDT
        Enoch-2699399

        Dear Friend A.K.: I repeat my claim from an earlier post that his article is a very thorough and detailed one. It is good journalism, and good archeology. On a closer second reading, there is one important detail left out.

        The Rabbi Shmuel Rabinovich said that his opposition is unlike Rabbi Getz who fought to have access to the Temple Mount.

        Getz was in search of the Aaron ha Kodesh (Arc of the Covenant). Rabinovich did state that his opposition to entering the Temple Mount is not political, but a matter of Halachah (Rabbinic Law). That is also true. But the article did not articulate the Halachah. So I shall, to shed some light on the decision of Rabinovich.

        Access to the Temple Mount for Jews is presently forbidden for two reasons, according to Rabbinic Law.

        First, it leads to the Kodesh ha Kodeshim (Holy of Holy's). This is where the Shecheinah (Divine Presence) is said to reside. Only the Kohen Gadol (Great Priest) is permitted to enter there. And even then, only one time per year. That is on Yom Kippur (Day of Atonement) to pronounce the Name of G-d (Tetragrammon). Even so, the Kohen Gadol must purify himself ritually by eating dairy and abstaining from meat, wearing only white garments, and other purification rituals.

        Second, no one who is Jewish is to enter the Temple Mount until the construction and opening of the Third Temple (Beit Ha Migdash Ha Shlichee). This may only occur, according to Rabbinic Tradition, following the appearance of Ha Moshiach - The Messiah).

        I provide this not to stir up any ill will, or controversy.

        Other traditions may not follow Rabbinic Law at all, or if they do, may not do so in the same way.

        Even within Judaism, there is not universal agreement on the status and the interpretation of Rabbinic Law from movement to movement.

        I only add what the article did not follow up on for the close reader here. This is what Rabonovitch meant by this being an issue of Rabbinic Law, not a political one to him.

        In other quarters, it is most certainly a political, economic, cultural, and religious sereis of issues from other perspectives. There is complexity to such matters.

        Enoch.

          Reply#5 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:06 PM EDT
          Grisham

          Does this mean that you believe the Ark of the Covenant is beneath the Temple Mount, Enoch?

            #5.1 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:09 PM EDT
            Enoch-2699399

            Dear Grisham: I believe it was. I am not sure now.

            There are theories suggesting it is, among other places under an island off the Coast of Canada (Knight's Templar said to hide it there), in Ethiopia under guard 24-7 (in a Shrine); an on sale at the Home Despot Do it Yourself section of the store nearest Jay's Diner.

            As we speak, the hard evidence isn't any more convincing for one theory over another.

            Almost as much time has passed since the last recorded sighting of the Arc under the Holy Temple in Jerusalem as changing the trans fatty acid in the fryer of the Lower Monroe Avenue Seafood Market. Almost!

            Some things may be lost to antiquity.

            Enoch, munching the bread of affliction.

              #5.2 - Tue Apr 26, 2011 11:17 PM EDT
              Grisham

              I like the Canada theory best. It's safe here. We're all too busy trying to stay warm to worry about moving it. You can count on us to keep it safe, guarded by polar bears and dog sleds, my friend.

              Eating the bread of affliction. Very nice. LOL

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              #5.3 - Wed Apr 27, 2011 6:26 AM EDT
              pjwbur

              I wonder which Island and which coast?

              If it is in Canada, Grisham is right, we'll keep it safe. If it were ever found here, though, I wonder at the battle royale between which synagogue would have first dibs on protecting it. :o)

                #5.4 - Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:33 PM EDT
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                pjwbur

                This is a very interesting article, and Enoch's knowledgeable explainations and expansions enrich it even more.

                Thank you both.

                  Reply#6 - Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:34 PM EDT
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